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	<title>Comments on: Are we all broadcasters?</title>
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	<description>About Art, Media and Technology and the future of it</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wilbert</title>
		<link>http://www.hypernarrative.com/wordpress/2008/02/11/are-we-all-broadcasters/#comment-123243</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know. As long the web has some level of anarchy law and lawyers don't really get a grip on it. And this is a good thing.

I think regulating the web (or anything else) will kill creativity and slow down innovation. The best way to speed up innovation is a (partly) open culture.

This doesn't necessarily have to mean we need illegal material, I think we can make great stuff without doing anything 'illegal'. We just need an open mind approach of the companies representing old media. 

I think this will happen (and hopefully within the next five years). Slowly there is emerging a situation where old media can only benefit from the web if they share alike and join or start a discussion. And if they share and receive media.

Newspapers starting blogs, television moving into social networks and publishers and musicians releasing media for free.

We are moving to an engagement economy where we have to give in order to receive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know. As long the web has some level of anarchy law and lawyers don&#8217;t really get a grip on it. And this is a good thing.</p>
<p>I think regulating the web (or anything else) will kill creativity and slow down innovation. The best way to speed up innovation is a (partly) open culture.</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t necessarily have to mean we need illegal material, I think we can make great stuff without doing anything &#8216;illegal&#8217;. We just need an open mind approach of the companies representing old media. </p>
<p>I think this will happen (and hopefully within the next five years). Slowly there is emerging a situation where old media can only benefit from the web if they share alike and join or start a discussion. And if they share and receive media.</p>
<p>Newspapers starting blogs, television moving into social networks and publishers and musicians releasing media for free.</p>
<p>We are moving to an engagement economy where we have to give in order to receive.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Helmond</title>
		<link>http://www.hypernarrative.com/wordpress/2008/02/11/are-we-all-broadcasters/#comment-123239</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Helmond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fresh in my inbox:

&lt;a href="http://www.debalie.nl/dossierpagina.jsp?dossierid=208416" rel="nofollow"&gt;Economies of the Commons&lt;/a&gt;

Strategies for Sustainable Access and Creative Reuse of Images and Sounds Online</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fresh in my inbox:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.debalie.nl/dossierpagina.jsp?dossierid=208416" rel="nofollow">Economies of the Commons</a></p>
<p>Strategies for Sustainable Access and Creative Reuse of Images and Sounds Online</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Helmond</title>
		<link>http://www.hypernarrative.com/wordpress/2008/02/11/are-we-all-broadcasters/#comment-123216</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Helmond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a public accessible database would be a great idea. Industries should definitely adjust and make and provide their own content that fans can share. As fan culture makes most of the money, they should cherish the web 2.0 fan that wants to embed videos and music. Of course this is not unlimited but providing legal content would be a great first step.

Do you think these issues will be settled in the next five years? Or should we rather take ten or twenty years. Can big old giants even move?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a public accessible database would be a great idea. Industries should definitely adjust and make and provide their own content that fans can share. As fan culture makes most of the money, they should cherish the web 2.0 fan that wants to embed videos and music. Of course this is not unlimited but providing legal content would be a great first step.</p>
<p>Do you think these issues will be settled in the next five years? Or should we rather take ten or twenty years. Can big old giants even move?</p>
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		<title>By: Wilbert</title>
		<link>http://www.hypernarrative.com/wordpress/2008/02/11/are-we-all-broadcasters/#comment-123206</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, no you don't sound old fashioned, a well maybe a little bit ;) 

I think you're right. If something is illegal on YouTube and you embed/link to it that doesn't make it legal.

What I do worry about is when an artist uploads video/song to his or her YouTube/MySpace/personal website and makes it actively available for sharing, the fans can't show it without a license, or maybe a complete set of licenses from other third parties.

I don't want to take money away from the artist. I just don't think you can treat the web similar as a venue. I don't know what a website is anymore. You can share your favorite video's on a forum, a NING network, a blogger account, facebook, your personal blog or through a messenger-like network like IM or twitter. Most elements are objects and the things that aren't will be objects (open social). Sharing and aggregating information has just started.

The only people that can change this are the artists. They should ask BUMA in this case to come up with a variable model or make a public accessible database with the artists they represent.

It's a difficult situation and I don't know the ideal solution, but I'm sure what they are doing right now isn't exactly the best way to find a solution. I think most people won't mind to pay for music, only the model should be right.
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The story reminds me about &lt;a href="http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-503255.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Warner Bros vs. the Harry Potter fan websites&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, no you don&#8217;t sound old fashioned, a well maybe a little bit ;) </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right. If something is illegal on YouTube and you embed/link to it that doesn&#8217;t make it legal.</p>
<p>What I do worry about is when an artist uploads video/song to his or her YouTube/MySpace/personal website and makes it actively available for sharing, the fans can&#8217;t show it without a license, or maybe a complete set of licenses from other third parties.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to take money away from the artist. I just don&#8217;t think you can treat the web similar as a venue. I don&#8217;t know what a website is anymore. You can share your favorite video&#8217;s on a forum, a NING network, a blogger account, facebook, your personal blog or through a messenger-like network like IM or twitter. Most elements are objects and the things that aren&#8217;t will be objects (open social). Sharing and aggregating information has just started.</p>
<p>The only people that can change this are the artists. They should ask BUMA in this case to come up with a variable model or make a public accessible database with the artists they represent.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a difficult situation and I don&#8217;t know the ideal solution, but I&#8217;m sure what they are doing right now isn&#8217;t exactly the best way to find a solution. I think most people won&#8217;t mind to pay for music, only the model should be right.<br />
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The story reminds me about <a href="http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-503255.html" rel="nofollow">Warner Bros vs. the Harry Potter fan websites</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anne Helmond</title>
		<link>http://www.hypernarrative.com/wordpress/2008/02/11/are-we-all-broadcasters/#comment-123192</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Helmond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing Nest. I really loved Deaf Center - Pale Ravine so I'm curious about this album. I really love such initiatives, I am also a big fan of the &lt;a href="http://www.inacabinwith.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;In A Cabin With&lt;/a&gt; series.

Concerning the broadcasters question, I think there is a difference in writing on my wall in Facebook and embedding a copyright protected video on my blog. In the first case I create content and in the second case I copy paste material that should not even be on YouTube. While I am not personally responsible for uploading it, YouTube is not the only liable party. We seem to live in a share-a-like world now but sometimes we seem to be forgetting that not everything is for free and that everything could and should be shared.

Did I just sound old fashioned? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing Nest. I really loved Deaf Center - Pale Ravine so I&#8217;m curious about this album. I really love such initiatives, I am also a big fan of the <a href="http://www.inacabinwith.com/" rel="nofollow">In A Cabin With</a> series.</p>
<p>Concerning the broadcasters question, I think there is a difference in writing on my wall in Facebook and embedding a copyright protected video on my blog. In the first case I create content and in the second case I copy paste material that should not even be on YouTube. While I am not personally responsible for uploading it, YouTube is not the only liable party. We seem to live in a share-a-like world now but sometimes we seem to be forgetting that not everything is for free and that everything could and should be shared.</p>
<p>Did I just sound old fashioned? :)</p>
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