Comments on: Why Google has everything it needs to disrupt the music business http://www.hypernarrative.com/wordpress/2008/01/29/why-google-has-everything-it-needs-to-disrupt-the-music-business/ About Art, Media and Technology and the future of it Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:59:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Wilbert http://www.hypernarrative.com/wordpress/2008/01/29/why-google-has-everything-it-needs-to-disrupt-the-music-business/#comment-182331 Wilbert Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:47:13 +0000 http://www.hypernarrative.com/wordpress/2008/01/29/why-google-has-everything-it-needs-to-disrupt-the-music-business/#comment-182331 Rumors of a $ 129,- a year flat fee iTunes subscription model: http://venturebeat.com/2008/08/21/itunes-unlimited-has-a-limited-chance-of-happening-for-now/ Rumors of a $ 129,- a year flat fee iTunes subscription model: http://venturebeat.com/2008/08/21/itunes-unlimited-has-a-limited-chance-of-happening-for-now/

]]> By: eric casteleijn http://www.hypernarrative.com/wordpress/2008/01/29/why-google-has-everything-it-needs-to-disrupt-the-music-business/#comment-121822 eric casteleijn Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:26:58 +0000 http://www.hypernarrative.com/wordpress/2008/01/29/why-google-has-everything-it-needs-to-disrupt-the-music-business/#comment-121822 Well, looks like I was wrong all the way :) : http://mashable.com/2008/02/05/google-free-music-china/ Well, looks like I was wrong all the way :) :

http://mashable.com/2008/02/05/google-free-music-china/

]]> By: Wilbert http://www.hypernarrative.com/wordpress/2008/01/29/why-google-has-everything-it-needs-to-disrupt-the-music-business/#comment-120257 Wilbert Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:58:51 +0000 http://www.hypernarrative.com/wordpress/2008/01/29/why-google-has-everything-it-needs-to-disrupt-the-music-business/#comment-120257 @eric I think you're right that Google is best in retrieving information. But, they do store information. Documents in Google Docs, e-mail with Gmail, pages with page creator, photos with Picasa and video on Google video / Youtube. Google has to grow one way or another. Like Yahoo Google has shareholders and shareholders love the 'next big thing'. I don't know if Google will ever go into music, but I like what happens when you create successful websites or services. You get automatically chances for new spinoffs. I think this also happens to manufacturers of goods. <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/12/22/2007-in-numbers-igoogle-googles-homegrown-star-performer-this-year/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">On Techcrunch there is an overview of Google products and their growth rate</>. @eric I think you’re right that Google is best in retrieving information. But, they do store information. Documents in Google Docs, e-mail with Gmail, pages with page creator, photos with Picasa and video on Google video / Youtube.

Google has to grow one way or another. Like Yahoo Google has shareholders and shareholders love the ‘next big thing’.

I don’t know if Google will ever go into music, but I like what happens when you create successful websites or services. You get automatically chances for new spinoffs. I think this also happens to manufacturers of goods.

On Techcrunch there is an overview of Google products and their growth rate.

]]> By: Wilbert http://www.hypernarrative.com/wordpress/2008/01/29/why-google-has-everything-it-needs-to-disrupt-the-music-business/#comment-120176 Wilbert Thu, 31 Jan 2008 06:50:05 +0000 http://www.hypernarrative.com/wordpress/2008/01/29/why-google-has-everything-it-needs-to-disrupt-the-music-business/#comment-120176 Interesting news <blockquote>Adoption of Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud (EC2) and Amazon Simple Storage Service (S3) continues to grow. As an indicator of adoption, bandwidth utilized by these services in fourth quarter 2007 was even greater than bandwidth utilized in the same period by all of Amazon.com’s global websites combined.</blockquote> <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/amazon_web_services_bigger_than_amazon.php" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">Amazon Web Services: Bigger than Amazon</a> Interesting news

Adoption of Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud (EC2) and Amazon Simple Storage Service (S3) continues to grow. As an indicator of adoption, bandwidth utilized by these services in fourth quarter 2007 was even greater than bandwidth utilized in the same period by all of Amazon.com’s global websites combined.

Amazon Web Services: Bigger than Amazon

]]> By: eric casteleijn http://www.hypernarrative.com/wordpress/2008/01/29/why-google-has-everything-it-needs-to-disrupt-the-music-business/#comment-119992 eric casteleijn Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:34:05 +0000 http://www.hypernarrative.com/wordpress/2008/01/29/why-google-has-everything-it-needs-to-disrupt-the-music-business/#comment-119992 I think google is going to stick closer to their core business, search, than they have with for instance the acquisition of youtube. I think they realize that advertising on the web works best (or even at all) when people are searching. I am hardly the measure of all things, but I don't notice ads on sites, unless they move and blink a lot, or block the access to the actual content, (a reason for me not to visit the site in question) *or* when I am actually searching for a place to buy something. That's why google's adds on google.com work, since they happen to have a great search engine, and google ads via adsense on third party sites work to a much lesser degree. (Also the automatic selection of the actual ads is comically inane, most of the time.) People coming to your site for the content are not going to click random ads, the only model that works is targeted advertising/advertorials specific to your site. Anything else is either invisible, or annoying. The reason annoying works in traditional media, to some extent, is that there is a single stream you can interrupt with ads. On the web you can too, but people won't expect it, and hate it. Will google start storing mp3s or acquire some streaming service? I don't think so. Once the major labels accept that their business model has changed, and stop suing everyone that is trying to show them the way to a new model, google might put some UI on the mp3s they already index, and combine that with ads targeting music fans, and probably overtake sites already doing this, like hypemachine, simply because they have the resources to index more and faster. Google is all about indexing and linking to, not storing and providing actual content, and I think they will stick to it more and more. On the other hand, they might buy a music service just for the heck of it, they seem to be in perpetual competition with yahoo to own one of each 'next big thing'. I think google is going to stick closer to their core business, search, than they have with for instance the acquisition of youtube. I think they realize that advertising on the web works best (or even at all) when people are searching. I am hardly the measure of all things, but I don’t notice ads on sites, unless they move and blink a lot, or block the access to the actual content, (a reason for me not to visit the site in question) *or* when I am actually searching for a place to buy something.

That’s why google’s adds on google.com work, since they happen to have a great search engine, and google ads via adsense on third party sites work to a much lesser degree. (Also the automatic selection of the actual ads is comically inane, most of the time.) People coming to your site for the content are not going to click random ads, the only model that works is targeted advertising/advertorials specific to your site. Anything else is either invisible, or annoying. The reason annoying works in traditional media, to some extent, is that there is a single stream you can interrupt with ads. On the web you can too, but people won’t expect it, and hate it.

Will google start storing mp3s or acquire some streaming service? I don’t think so. Once the major labels accept that their business model has changed, and stop suing everyone that is trying to show them the way to a new model, google might put some UI on the mp3s they already index, and combine that with ads targeting music fans, and probably overtake sites already doing this, like hypemachine, simply because they have the resources to index more and faster.

Google is all about indexing and linking to, not storing and providing actual content, and I think they will stick to it more and more. On the other hand, they might buy a music service just for the heck of it, they seem to be in perpetual competition with yahoo to own one of each ‘next big thing’.

]]> By: Wilbert http://www.hypernarrative.com/wordpress/2008/01/29/why-google-has-everything-it-needs-to-disrupt-the-music-business/#comment-119914 Wilbert Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:22:12 +0000 http://www.hypernarrative.com/wordpress/2008/01/29/why-google-has-everything-it-needs-to-disrupt-the-music-business/#comment-119914 @renier I'm sure <a href="http://www.cbscorporation.com/news/prdetails.php?id=2943" rel="nofollow">they will do something like that</a>, Last.fm has a very rich database and <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2007/may/30/digitalmedia.citynews" rel="nofollow">CBS did buy Last.fm</a> for a reason. I think the need for album art actually grows, think about iTunes, the iPod, but also the Last.fm player. Album art is a very good icon for identification. It helps you to remember and find things. @tino nice, I love rumors :) <div class="thumbnail"><a href="http://skitch.com/wilbertbaan/ftcd/master-vfl32776.gif-603x293-pixels" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://img.skitch.com/20080130-b2ypa5pguh15xcmqkc14hnpjx5.preview.jpg" alt="master-vfl32776.gif 603×293 pixels" /></a><br /><span style="font-family: Lucida Grande, Trebuchet, sans-serif, Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 10px; color: #808080">Uploaded with <a href="http://plasq.com/" rel="nofollow">plasq</a>'s <a href="http://skitch.com" rel="nofollow">Skitch</a>!</span></div> @renier I’m sure they will do something like that, Last.fm has a very rich database and CBS did buy Last.fm for a reason.

I think the need for album art actually grows, think about iTunes, the iPod, but also the Last.fm player. Album art is a very good icon for identification. It helps you to remember and find things.

@tino nice, I love rumors :)

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]]> By: Tino Klumpen http://www.hypernarrative.com/wordpress/2008/01/29/why-google-has-everything-it-needs-to-disrupt-the-music-business/#comment-119804 Tino Klumpen Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:25:10 +0000 http://www.hypernarrative.com/wordpress/2008/01/29/why-google-has-everything-it-needs-to-disrupt-the-music-business/#comment-119804 Ha, you guessed quite right I think. It's because I saw this gif today, analyzing the youtube site.... http://static.youtube.com/yt/img/master-vfl32776.gif Ha, you guessed quite right I think. It’s because I saw this gif today, analyzing the youtube site….

http://static.youtube.com/yt/img/master-vfl32776.gif

]]> By: Renier http://www.hypernarrative.com/wordpress/2008/01/29/why-google-has-everything-it-needs-to-disrupt-the-music-business/#comment-119771 Renier Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:04:54 +0000 http://www.hypernarrative.com/wordpress/2008/01/29/why-google-has-everything-it-needs-to-disrupt-the-music-business/#comment-119771 There's a big chance google will do what you suggest. But I also read that some mayor recordcompanies are working together with last.fm to do almost the same thing. Either way it seems like the next step for sure to have only access to music instead of storing it. And a custom made book with all the album art for those who like :) There’s a big chance google will do what you suggest. But I also read that some mayor recordcompanies are working together with last.fm to do almost the same thing. Either way it seems like the next step for sure to have only access to music instead of storing it. And a custom made book with all the album art for those who like :)

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